Ben Habib has outlined exactly what he believes is dividing Britain in a brilliant debate.

It comes as an exclusive poll of almost 3,000 GB News members found that 99 per cent do not trust either Keir Starmer or Rachel Reeves with the country.


In a debate over the future of politics in the country and whether Reform or the Liberal Democrats are a larger threat to the Tories, Ben Habib focused on the real problem facing political parties.

Ben Habib speaking on GB News

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He said: “I think Norman and the Liberal Democrats, Labour, whoever makes the case for left versus right is missing what’s going on in the country.

“What’s happening in the country, and what was shown in spades in 2019 was that the electorate want governments making policy for British national interests.

“The real schism in politics at the moment is between those who would govern us through global institutions, with global prosperity more at heart than national prosperity and those that would govern for national prosperity.

He added: “The vote in 2019 for Boris Johnson, which was a thumping victory for him, many more votes than Labour. But remember, Labour won this election on 9.7 million votes, 600,000 down from 2019.

“The story of this election was a pox on all your houses, because the nation wants national policies made for the national interest. The Liberal Democrats do not offer that, Labour do not offer it, and the conservatives are in a complete mess over it.

In the debate with Norman Baker, of the Liberal Democrats, he added: “And just one more thing that Norman mentioned.

“He talks about the increase in number of seats won by the Liberal Democrats. The number of votes taken by the Liberal Democrats was down 100,000 from the last election, 3.6 million down to 3.5 million.

“Yes, the number of seats went up, but that’s because, again, as I say, the nation is vote. Those who want Brexit, those who want national interest made a national policies made for the national interest. They are staying at home because they’ve been trounced repeatedly.

“The real debate, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, is still raging in the country.

“Do we stand? Do our politicians and our government stand for the United Kingdom, or do they stand for some kind of global order?”

“That’s the debate, and that needs to be held out.”