A heated row broke out on GB News last night as Darren Grimes took political commentator Cai Wilshaw to task.
Branding him a ‘Marxist’, Darren questioned why Wilshaw was ardently in favour of Labour’s £22bn pledge for carbon capture projects.
Such projects will see carbon emissions captured and stored from energy, industry and hydrogen production.
Wilshaw argued Labour hadn’t pledged enough money if it is to reach its net zero targets.
The pair were embroiled in a tense clash
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“Where are they finding the funding for this measure?”, Darren asked, noting the Government’s controversial slashing of winter fuel payments for thousands of pensioners.
Wilshaw said: “Building infrastructure and making investments is a different thing entirely from deciding where the Budget is being spent.
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“Allocating those amounts comes completely separately to deciding where the future infrastructure investment is coming from.
“I can’t believe you’re on the side of Greenpeace, I’m not sure if you’ve joined Just Stop Oil, but they’re one of the only groups opposing this. You’ve got big business and big tech joining on this.”
Darren said big business is keen on the scheme because they are likely being given a “bung” in the form of taxpayers’ money.
“You have sacrificed the working class on the altar of greenery”, Darren fumed.
The pair spoke on the Saturday Five
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“It’s Greta Thunberg-esque. I think it’s a damn disgrace and this is yet another example of big business getting fat on this.
“I can’t believe a Marxist like you is talking about this being good for big business. You should be on the side of the little people, that’s the side I’m on.
“Net zero isn’t. It’s the side of big business and vested interests.”
“I won’t take this from you”, Wilshaw hit back.
“I spoke to a real coal miner two weeks ago and a farmer two days ago, and they don’t have petty grievances about net zero taking this cash”, he said.
“They’re worried about the state of British industries like farming and steelmaking, they’re worried about what happens as these industries become less relevant.”
Sir Keir Starmer joined Energy Secretary Ed Miliband and Chancellor Rachel Reeves last week to confirm the projects, saying the move would “reignite our industrial heartlands” and “kickstart growth”.
Some green campaigners are wary, saying the investment would “extend the life of planet-heating oil and gas production”.